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Getting To Turkiye (Or Anywhere) Cheaply

Turkish Airlines flight
Flying doesn’t have to be expensive!
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I know what you’re thinking. Turkiye, even other countries with CBI or Golden Visa programs = not cheap to get to. But hear me out: by using credit card miles and points wisely, you can fly for a significant discount!

If you aren’t familiar, you can use points, earned on travel credit cards, to offset the cost of travel. You can use these points for virtually any kind of travel, but I use them mostly for flights, since that’s where I find the most value for me. Everyone customizes the game differently depending on their own needs.

I won’t pretend to be an expert in the miles and points game. Whenever I think I’m doing pretty well, along comes an article that’s completely next-level. So rather than my giving you advice, I’m going to direct you to a few websites that have been instrumental in my learning this craft.

For a comprehensive course that starts at the basics and leads you into more advanced topics, I like 10X Travel. Their free course will handhold you through everything and give you all the fundamentals you need to get started.

I rely on Daily Drop for my miles/points daily news. Their cheeky newsletter comes out every weekday — it’s an informative and humorous read! The newsletters will assume that you know the basics, though.

Another great resource is Travel Freely. Zach also has a solid educational section on his site, plus a free tool where you can keep track of your cards, their sign-up bonuses, spends, etc.

There are many other miles/points resources out there, but these have been my go-tos. (None are affiliate links; I just really like these sites and products!)

Once you’ve accrued your points, you can fly cheaply to Turkiye, or wherever your heart desires! And at least for us Seattleites, there are many places in the world with a cheaper cost of living than our home; so the cost truly is the most expensive part of most of our international travel. Day-to-day costs are relatively small.

I hope you enjoyed these links, and I hope that you are able to use them to explore your world a little more!

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How To Find A Property

Home in Bodrum
Properties in Turkiye range from old to new, small to large. (Image credit: Daily Sabah)

So, you want to buy property in Turkiye. How do you get started?

We started by watching a few YouTube channels focused on foreign property, including Wandering Investor. Through the Wandering Investor channel, we learned about an Istanbul-based real estate agent who is experienced in working with foreigners. (He’s from Canada, so he’s fluent in English, too.) We found his contact information in the comments section of the video, and simply reached out.

Keith enthusiastically responded and connected me to his local network, including a few WhatsApp groups with other current and prospective investors. Others in the group were also eager to provide backchannel chats with advice, which I found particularly helpful from those already in the late stages of the CBI process.

One of the WhatsApp groups is basically a repository for real estate listings, including photos. So, as our money became available, I was paying more attention to these. Keith and his team also worked relentlessly, often until late in the night for them, to find the right combination of properties for us.

Our properties? I’ll write about them in the next post…

But for now, know that there are a variety of property types available if you’re wanting to invest. There’s a lot of newer construction, which is more expensive, of course. Older properties are also available, but you need to ensure that they are earthquake-safe. And you can choose an urban location (such as Istanbul), a coastal beach location (such as Bodrum, shown in the photo above), or something rural elsewhere in the country.

Once you have the appropriate connections, it’s pretty straightforward to find a Turkish property that works for you! We certainly did.

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Property Search

(Note: this post was originally written in early May 2023. Spoiler alert — we have since found properties in Turkiye. But this post outlines the process for finding properties.)

This cool map was on the wall at one of the properties where we stayed in Istanbul.

Our money is deposited into our Turkish bank account, and it’s time to look for a place! The only thing – the clock is ticking, since with the country’s presidential election looming (this post written during the first week of May), it’s unclear if the CBI program will be maintained. There is zero likelihood that they would choose to terminate it the day after the May 14th election, but if such a decision were made, we may only have until June 1 or June 15 to finalize our property purchases. If only our money had been available earlier – this last-minute stress would not have been such an issue!

I didn’t know that the property purchase would be as stressful as waiting for the money to come in. Many properties for sale are under $400K, meaning we’re trying to get two. (Better to diversify our investments, anyway.) But with a hard upper limit to our budget, it’s become a game of Tetris to come up with two properties that fit the criteria, but don’t exceed $450K.

What are these criteria, you ask? The most basic one is that the property is suitable to be used for the CBI program. Properties which have been used for CBI in the past, and subsequently sold, are not eligible to be used for the program. Also, in light of the recent Hatay Province earthquake, we want a solid building. But aside from that, we don’t have too many other qualifications. Ideally, it would be in an area where we could rent the apartment and get a reasonable return – basically, the apartment paying for itself in the end.  We’re not sure how much we’ll be staying in our properties when we visit Istanbul, since AirBnBs in our favorite neighborhood are affordable enough.

The friendly faces of Istanbul and Besiktas!

The long-term plan is hopefully to buy a property in our favorite neighborhood after our initial CBI holding period is over. Once we buy our first property, we are allowed to sell it after three years and still maintain citizenship. If we hold the property five years before selling, we will avoid long-term gain taxes. We’d love to use the proceeds from these sales to buy our ideal property in 2028. This, of course, is dependent on availability, world economy, and the status of Turkiye at the time.

Besiktas — our favorite neighborhood! (So far.)

Meanwhile, we feel like we’re close to moving on a pair of properties, but the ten-hour time difference is nervewracking! I don’t expect the agents to stay up all night to help me; as it is, they’ve been more than generous, texting me until 12pm PDT/10pm Istanbul time. But I’d be lying if I didn’t say I spend the entire rest of the afternoon with property anxiety…

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The Basics Of Turkish CBI

As the name states, at the fundamental level, CBI requires an investment of money prior to obtaining citizenship. In Turkiye, the investment goes toward property, meaning that you will also be a local property owner once the process is complete.

Since we are American citizens, we do not have to give up our primary citizenship. When our CBI is complete, we will be dual citizens of the US and Turkiye. Note that this is not true for all countries; some countries do not allow dual citizenship, and those residents would have to give up their primary citizenship when pursuing Turkish CBI. This is great, since it not only gives us the freedom to move back and forth, but we will be able to use our Turkish passports to travel visa-free to certain countries.

If you’re wondering if a lot of paperwork is involved, you’d be right. But the overall process involves selecting and buying property equivalent to $400,000 (which often involves more than one property), and you and your family will have passports within about four months. Yes – if you purchase the property, you, your spouse, and any dependents under the age of 18 will also be included in the deal. There are many hoops to jump through, and I would recommend using a reputable attorney to help you through the process so that you don’t miss anything, but it’s one of the fastest CBI programs around.

Moreover, if you are not staying in your property, it can generate rental income (after any renovations are completed, of course). And, if you aren’t satisfied in the end, the program only asks that you hold your property for three years – then you can sell it.

Interestingly, all of this paperwork – including choosing and purchasing the property – can be done remotely. I have heard of many people who receive their Turkish passports never having set foot in the country. That sounds crazy to me, since I want to spend as much time as possible there; but even we have had to do some of the work through our local Embassy, as it hasn’t been practical to travel back and forth to Turkiye.

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The Journey Begins

Unfortunately, going to Istanbul every time we need to complete paperwork is not an option from where we live in Seattle, much though we would love it.

To complete the first step of our CBI journey, we needed to give our Turkish attorney power (power of attorney) to open Turkish bank accounts for us and deal with some of the paperwork. We are represented by the Los Angeles embassy, so we went down there in mid-March. As a former Southern California resident, I was not upset by this, since I was able to drive around and reminisce as well as getting work done.

Off we go!
Tacos. Siempre. When in LA…

Was this as much of a food adventure as a CBI/work journey? Maybe…

Indeed… this was one of my favorite places in Newport when I went to UCI a gazillion years ago, and they’re still going strong. Bagels not quite NY-level, but far better than what you can get here in Seattle.

This says it all. What numbskull decides to start construction on a major road on a Monday morning? We thought we were so prepared, even driving the route to the Embassy the night before to get a sense of the gotchas along the local roads. But the very next day — yep, they’d torn up the road, which made traffic ten times worse.

Luckily, we’d more than doubled Google Maps’ estimate to get there, and only ran 10 minutes late. For such an important appointment, we weren’t taking chances.

This was a Turkish government facility, so I didn’t take any pictures inside. But I just had to sneak one picture before going in to document this historic event. Note the Turkish flag on the door — we knew we were in the right place!

While inside, we spent a lot of time talking to an interpreter, walking back and forth between the seating area and the officials, and just waiting until we were needed for questions. (We should’ve taken a picture of the interpreter, who was wonderful. She was originally from Istanbul, and told us that she thought LA was slow-paced. )

In the end, we officially signed over POA to our attorney in Istanbul successfully. But we were lucky — our interpreter was told that we were the last foreigners allowed to have an appointment before the May Turkish elections. Since it was mid-March when we set this up, that delay likely would’ve killed our CBI process. Glad that we squeezed through all of the traffic!

Once that was taken care of, we spent some time at the breezy, but still beautiful, Manhattan Beach pier.

Step one complete! Now, on to putting money in the account, and selecting our properties…

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Why Becoming Turkish?

Simply put, my husband Bruce and I love the country Turkiye. The people, the hospitality, the culture, the food… everything about it!

Us with staff at Murat Besiktas
In Turkiye, it’s easy to make friends, even when there’s a language barrier.

On our second long trip to the country, in mid-August 2021, Bruce and I sat in Story Café in the Moda district of Istanbul enjoying a treat. We said to each other – “what would it take to live here?”

Before finishing my cappuccino, I took to Google, figuring out visa requirements and how long Americans were allowed to stay in the country. The regular travelers’ visa would give us 90 days in Turkiye over a 180-day period. Great, we thought, we like enough of eastern Europe that we could jump back and forth to there, spending six months total in the region per year.

Sitting at Story Cafe in Moda with cookie

The infamous day at Story Cafe in Moda with the matcha/strawberry chip cookie, when we wondered: What if?

But what if that wasn’t enough?

Toward the end of the trip, we learned about the CBI (Citizenship By Investment) program. Turkiye isn’t the only country that has this type of program; other countries refer to it as a Golden Visa or something similar. It’s more or less a way to make an investment in a country to receive a second passport.

In our case, the second passport would allow us easier access to a country we love dearly: Turkiye. And, while all CBI or Golden Visa programs come in slightly different flavors, Turkiye’s requires that the applicant invests in property in the country. In the end, we will not only have our passports, but we will also own property that will hopefully give us some return on our investment!

Want more details on the Turkish CBI? That’s coming next time.